High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...100k and counting

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theguvnor
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Re: High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...100k and coun

Post by theguvnor » 17 Dec 2017, 19:25

Well i've taken the plunge and gone for the Driveline warranty with full BMW emergency service. Bit pricey at £95 per month but, as the timing chain is a 'lifetime of the vehicle part' ( and i double checked this bit with BMW ) as long as the services are up to date ( with OEM parts ) if the timing chain goes twag I'm covered. They start to rattle before they go and as I've said before my indie thinks regular oil changes are the way forward and as my motor gets new oil at least every 4 months i think I've got things covered.

And just done another marathon 7 hour drive ( Mumbles wales to drop my daughter off in Derby and back to Kiddy ) and i think the only thing that would tempt me out of this 520d is doing man maths and running an F10 M5. At least the mileage would pay for part of owning one!!

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Re: High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...100k and coun

Post by cockneyrebel » 17 Dec 2017, 21:11

Good but pricey option Matt, but with the amount of miles you munch it's gotta be worth it :thumbup:
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theguvnor
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Re: High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...100k and coun

Post by theguvnor » 20 Dec 2017, 18:48

Sorted a set of OEM BMW 17" alloys with Brudgestone Blizzacks with about 4mm left for £380 quid off flea bay , pick em tomorrow. Pics will follow at some point!! Five spoke design not the god awful standard SE ones...

theguvnor
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Re: High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...100k and counting

Post by theguvnor » 03 Jan 2018, 19:41

Its been the F10's turn at the garage, service, vehicle check & microfilter. And swap on the newly acquired style 327 alloys I've got off fleabay with winter runflats. At least they look easy to clean! Probably going to have the M Sport 18's refurbed while they are off. Heres a bad picture from tonight...
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theguvnor
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F10 520d M Sport
E34 520i SE Touring

Re: High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...116k end of the road roundup

Post by theguvnor » 28 Mar 2018, 11:34

Its my first day of 'garden leave' which is possibly the best bit about changing jobs in sales, they don't want you around so once I've tidied up all the lose ends that me done! Three weeks notice spent ( not in the garden ) with the feet up. Ruth has other ideas though!

I thought i would post round up to the F10, some hints and tips if any of you ever think about buying one and first hand running costs.

Overall impressions

Bloody fantastic is how i would sum the F10 up. Spacious, comfortable ( i'm 6ft 3" ), best motorway hack I've ever had. For pretty much the same money as the equivalent 3 series you can have the 5. It's fitted so well into family life, plenty of space in the back for the 18 year old soldier and 9 year old General. Quick enough for me day to day, and she got me from Birmingham to Aberdeen when storms shut Birmingham airport and I got out fresh as a daisy. Only disappointment is the wear on the drivers side bolster....usual stuff from BMW!

Running Costs

Over the 15 months I've had the F10 she's averaged 48mpg by the trip computer, and the one time i could be arsed to work out brim to brim ( i must've been bored ) that came out at 47.5 mpg. Thats with the 8 speed sports flappy paddle gearbox. Insurance for me has been a bit high but I've got business miles set at interstellar. On the 18"'s branded tyres come out about £190 for the rears and a bit less for the fronts. The following where replaced under the BMW warranty:

Satnav unit
Link arm passenger side suspension

And recently I've replaced a parking sensor ( £160 quid just for the unit! ) but as they say these cars are complicated beats. I would advise anyone buying a 3 year old or newer buy from BMW, the warranty has really been fantastic. If not try to get theist warranty you can......dread to think how much the satnav unit was .

I also had the oil and filters changed in the 8 speed gearbox, ZF who manufacture them recommend that at 80k miles. BMW say its sealed for life so if its going to be a keeper or do mega miles get that service done.


Timing Chains......

Timing chains on the 2.0d lumps on the pre facelift models ( up to 13 plate ) are still likely to throw one somewhere above 100k miles. There are some cases of post facelift as well just to muddy the waters. BMW in their wisdom put the chain at the back of the engine so to change the chain and followers is an engine or gearbox out job, and you are looking at £1,500 to £1,700 for replacement ( and thats indie prices ). They start to rattle before they go so you should have warning, My spanner man has stated that the ones he's had to do have generally been run over the service intervals, oil pressure seems to be a feature in the wear on the chain and to be fair I've run up to 116k and she's running as sweet as a nut. But i have had an oil change every 3 months due to the mileage. Before the job change i was going to change the chain once the driveline warranty had run its course this year at a bout 160k miles.


Buying One.....

Buy on condition not mileage, for the 2.0d if you can find one with a few miles on thats had the timing chain done that'll save you a load of money further down the road. Also one with discs done all round would be great. The widescreen satnav is well worth seeking out, you get the hard drive facility you don't get with the poverty nav and that means you can down load all of your dodgy music collection and get the online services as well.

Mine has the Oyster leather with upgrade wood and aluminium trim. I have really liked it, a much brighter place that black and silver! The only down side is cleaning the leather frequently to get rid of dye from my jeans!

The six cylinder diesel models don't tend to have the timing chain problems that the 4 pots do, and are a bit tougher ( according to the internet )

If you are sending a good lump on the F10 i'd go BMW approved used all day long. If you are at the cheaper end ( 13 plate 520d f10's with 115k are sub £10k ) id just make sure you have a bit in the back pocket for timing chain and the gearbox service if they haven't been done for that extra piece of mind. Oh and make sure the services have all been on time/mileage, they don't like being under serviced!! And word of warning, my car looks the same as it did at 50k so do provenance checks on the mileage, as there is a big difference in the value of a 50k 13 plate F10 and a 116k one!

I wouldn't hesitate to buy a high miles F10 as long as the above is taken into account.

Conclusion

The best 5 series since the E39, the F10 really is a return to form for BMW. Highly Recommended!

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Re: High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...100k and counting

Post by M60NJP » 28 Mar 2018, 11:59

Thanks Matt - good summary of a good daily car!

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Re: High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...100k and counting

Post by cockneyrebel » 28 Mar 2018, 14:16

Good write up Matt, she's done you proud :-bd
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Re: High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...100k and counting

Post by M60NJP » 28 Mar 2018, 14:35

p.s When will get a write up on wheel-kerbing repairs on M3s?

Si wanted me to ask............

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Re: High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...100k and counting

Post by cockneyrebel » 28 Mar 2018, 17:10

M60NJP wrote:
28 Mar 2018, 14:35
p.s When will get a write up on wheel-kerbing repairs on M3s?

Si wanted me to ask............
EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT.!!!
FORUM GRASS EXPOSED.
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theguvnor
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Re: High miles life with an F10 520d M Sport...100k and counting

Post by theguvnor » 28 Mar 2018, 19:03

cockneyrebel wrote:
28 Mar 2018, 17:10
M60NJP wrote:
28 Mar 2018, 14:35
p.s When will get a write up on wheel-kerbing repairs on M3s?

Si wanted me to ask............
EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT.!!!
FORUM GRASS EXPOSED.
:d
You can't get away with anything around here!!

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